Islam about sin, not law, rule of law basis of the Constitution

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Islamic world not speaking up against persecution of Muslims, Islamophobia, says Naik

Islam is about sin, not law.

The rule of law is the basis of the Constitution.

Religion doesn’t enter the picture.

The Constitution is not about religion.

The only majority that matters in law is that on the gov’t side in Parliament, not the majority in demography or in the streets.

According to jurisprudence, God is not a source in law.

In Myanmar and China, Muslims have been declared as threats to national security, sovereignty and territorial integrity because of their cultural, customary and religious practices.

Biblical holy lands . . .

Before 1947, both Jews and Arabs in the Biblical holy lands were known as Palestinians.

After 1947, except for Arabs in Israel, those in the Gaza Strip and West Bank refused to be called Israelis.

There’s no Palestinian language.

There has never been a Palestinian nation throughout history.

The Ottomon Empire refused to recognise the land claims of the Arabs in the Biblical holy lands.

Jerusalem, founded by King David 3, 000 years ago, has always had a Jewish majority. Almost all the land in Jerusalem belong to various Churches.

The Arabs want Jerusalem to be partitioned and the eastern half handed to them to be the capital of a Palestinian state in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.

Arab leaders in the West Bank and Gaza are not elected. So, Israel does not have a partner for peace in the two territories.

Kashmir . . .

There are those who claim Kashmir belongs to the people of Kashmir.

Next, they will claim Tamil Nadu belongs to the Tamils, Punjab to Punjabis, Bengal to Bengalis etc.

In law, a line has to be drawn somewhere. India is that line.

Kashmir is integral to the security of India, its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Without Kashmir, the entire northern flank is left exposed.

The high points along the border between the Indian subcontinent on this side, and Afghanistan, Sinkiang, Tibet, Yunnan and Myanmar on the other side is the natural frontier.

The Arabian Sea, Indian Ocean and the Bay of Bengal are also natural frontiers for the Indian subcontinent.

In 1947, 24 per cent of the people in Pakistan were non-Muslim. Today, their number is down to 2 per cent, the rest fled to India.

Jammu is majority Hindu, the vale of Kashmir majority Muslim, and Ladakh majority Buddhist.

The Pakistan Army is plundering the public treasury under the guise of a long-running “Hate India” campaign.

The Kashmir part of Jammu & Kashmir is not disputed territory.

Pakistan, created illegally from India in 1947 by British colonialists, has no legal and historical title to Kashmir. There’s no issue in conflict.

International law is clear. If you claim territory, you must produce a legal title.

Kashmir has never been part of Pakistan. Pakistan may not exist tomorrow.

The UN Resolution on Kashmir is non-binding. If it had been binding, sanctions would apply.

Modi . . .

Modi is the first gov’t in New Delhi which is not being held to ransom by Muslims.

Zakir Naik . . .

It’s about “holy noise” in English.

The Malays don’t know English but they consider Zakir Naik is making “holy noises” in that language.

So, they listen to him, without understanding a word of what he’s saying in English.

Likewise, they listen to “holy noises” in Arabic with tears in their eyes. It’s a sign of stress. Of course, they don’t understand even a word of Arabic. So, they get all worked up and stressed and shed tears to console themselves.

So childish!

Zakir Naik compares Islam with other thoughts, and rubbishes the latter.

Leave people alone with their collection of local practices (Hinduism), seeking (Hinduism/Sanatana Dharma), Knowing (Hindu Guru), beliefs (Islam), Silence on God (Buddhism) and the spiritual nature of truth (Holy Bible).

It’s not only the English language that killed Zakir Naik.

Mahathir killed him recently by saying that Zakir Naik is not wanted in Malaya, no other country wants to take him, he can’t be sent to India because he fears the Modi gov’t will incarcerate him pending trial.

Zakir Naik has faith in the court system in India. However, he thinks the court may probably be able to release him only after he has rotted 10 years in jail.

Author: fernzthegreat

Joe Fernandez holds a honours degree in management, majoring in economics, and has opted from academia in law to being a jurist. He was trained professionally on the job as a journalist. He's a longtime Borneo watcher, keen on the history and legal aspects of Malaya's presence in Sabah and Sarawak. He teaches the English language privately and has emerged as a subject matter expert in public examination techniques.

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  1. OFFICIAL STATEMENT BY ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP, CATHOLIC BISHOP’S CONFERENCE OF INDIA
    https://www.vaticannews.va/en/church/news/2018-01/india-bishops-cbci-press-release-new-year-2018-attacks.html

    Indian bishops urge brotherhood, peace, harmony in 2018‎
    At the start of the New Year, Catholic Bishops’ Conference of India expresses alarm over increasing ‎attacks on minority communities.‎

    The Catholic Bishops of India are calling on the people of the country to “preserve the traditional brotherhood, peace and harmony” of the nation against what they described as an unacceptable “terrorism” of “false nationalism”. Bishop Theodore Mascarenhas, Secretary General of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of India (CBCI) has issued a press release on the occasion of the New Year saying the bishops are “praying for the nation, political and spiritual leaders, and for every Indian, that 2018 may be a year of peace and harmony, of love and fraternity, of inclusive and integral development for all peoples.”

    At the dawn of a new year, Bishop Mascarenhas says, India’s bishops are saddened by attacks by Hindu nationalist groups on minorities and Christian institutions in various parts of India, sometimes with the police looking on. The Indian bishops say it is worrying and disturbing that mobs of these types are being emboldened. “This type of terrorism is unacceptable. This false nationalism must stop,” the CBCI Secretary General stresses. ‎

    India’s ruling pro-Hindu Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP)‎ of Prime Minister Narendra Modi is considered by many to be the political wing of Hindu groups that want to make India a Hindu-only nation.‎ Approximately 28 million Christians make up some 2.3 percent of India’s 1.3 billion population that is over 80% Hindu. Figures show violence against minorities and the marginalized have surged since the BJP-led government came to power in the centre in 2014, and the party has made notable gains in several states.

    Expressing the fear and worry of the Christian community, the Indian bishops lament the use of “filthy and foul language” by Hindu nationalists and “dangerously communal statements” against minorities by some lawmakers and ministers, with one even threatening to the change the secular Constitution of India.

    “Silver lining”

    However amidst this “worrying and disturbing” scenario, Bishop Mascarenhas notes a “silver lining”, with many ministers and officials working to create a healthy situation. He particularly mentions the slogan of Prime Minister Modi, “Collective Efforts, Inclusive Growth”, and his “desire to work for all Indians.” Home Minister Rajnath Singh assured safety to Christians during Christmas. With compassion and kindness, leaders like External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj are helping people in trouble and distress without ‎distinctions of religion, creed, language or region. Bishop Mascarenhas also commends police officials in some states who have taken action to prevent attacks on Christians.

    Calling on political leaders to “recognize that groups and individuals spreading poison and sowing hatred are increasing and are being emboldened,” India’s Catholic bishops are inviting Indians to “come together to preserve the traditional brotherhood, peace and harmony” of the nation.

    Please find below the full text of the press release of CBCI Secretary General Bishop Theodore Mascarenhas:

    PRESS RELEASE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE NEW YEAR 2018

    The Catholic Bishops’ Conference of India wishes you a New Year filled with God’s abundant blessings, His Peace and Joy. As India and the World ushers in 2018, we look forward with hope and enthusiasm. We pray for our beloved Country, for our Political and Spiritual leaders, and for every Indian, that 2018 may be a year of peace and harmony, of love and fraternity, of inclusive and integral development for all peoples.

    Even as we enter the New Year, a series of happenings that threaten the very idea of India have been taking place.

    We have been saddened by disturbing reports of an uncalled for attack on Dalits in Pune, Maharashtra. According to Newspaper reports, “groups carrying saffron flags allegedly attacked Dalits headed to the British-built memorial to those who died in the battle of 1818.” That this annual event is suddenly under attack is an alarming sign and we condemn the violence unequivocally. We appeal for peace and harmony.

    In Vidisha, Madhya Pradesh, a Catholic Institution, St. Mary’s Post Graduate College is being threatened by ABVP activists that trouble will be created on 4th January 2018 in the college. The College has already been attacked once by these lumpen elements on 30th December 2017 who entered the college by scaling walls and as one Newspaper called it creating a “hungama” demanding that a certain type of worship be enforced in the College. The attack took place in the presence of over 20 policemen who watched without acting. This type of terrorism is unacceptable. This false nationalism must stop. That mobs of these type are being emboldened as was earlier seen in Satna is worrying and disturbing.

    Meanwhile a fact finding team of lawyers deputed by the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of India has reported that the tiny Christian community there is frightened and worried. Among other things, they observed that “The Bajrang dal activists shouted slogans against Christians and used filthy and foul language to abuse them. They asked the brothers and Priests to come forward one by one and took photos of everyone and wrote down the phone numbers; and the police silently watched. It looked as if the whole incident was scripted and directed by Bajrang dal Activists with the sponsorship of the Police. The police did not do anything to protect the brothers. The manhandling and thrashing by the Bajrang Dal members was so ruthless that many got bruises and injuries; and spectacles of three brothers were broken. They forced the brothers to say, Jai Sriram, Jai Bajrang Bali.”

    An MLA from UP has been making dangerously communal statements including threatening to break the limbs of “cow killers” in the state, promising not to spare those who refuse to sing Vande Mataram and claiming that this country belongs only to one community. Another MLA from Rajasthan has accused a particular community claiming that they bear more children as part of a plan to take control of India. An union minister has gone on record stating that the growing population of the country, especially of a certain community, is a threat to the social fabric, social harmony, and development of the country. What is troubling is that these statements are being made without any rebuttals. Yet another Union Minister had the audacity to claim that his party would soon change the Constitution (of India), “which mentions the word “secular.” He even went on to say that “Those who, without knowing about their parental blood, call themselves secular, they don’t have their own identity…They don’t know about their parentage, but they are intellectuals.” An apology came only after protests in Parliament.

    But we also see a silver lining. The Catholic Bishops’ Conference appreciates our Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s slogan “sab ka sath, sab ka vikas” and his desire to work for all Indians. We wish to thank Shri Rajnath Singh our Home Minister for not only assuring us of safety during the Christmas Celebrations but even issuing an advisory to all states “to ensure law and order during Christmas in the wake of fringe elements threatening some Christian community members against celebrating the festival”. This built confidence in the Community during the celebrations. Leaders like Sushma Swaraj with compassion and kindness are helping people in trouble and distress without distinctions of religion, creed, language or region. There are many other Ministers in the Union cabinet and in the States who do their work with justice and dedication and they deserve our compliments. Assurances of pre-emptive action on 4th January 2018 from Inspector General, (Bhopal Region), Inspector General (Law and Order), and Inspector General (Intelligence) Madhya Pradesh to thwart the threatened attack by goons on St. Mary’s College, Vidisha has boosted the confidence of our Fathers there.

    It is time for all of us to come together to preserve the traditional brotherhood, peace and harmony in our beloved country. Our history manifests how our people have paid a high price in terms of loss, death and bloodshed due to hatred and division. It is a time for peace and a bounden duty on each one of us to ensure that every Indian feels safe, grows and prospers in freedom.

    We appeal to leaders across the political spectrum to recognise that groups and individuals spreading poison and sowing hatred are increasing and are being emboldened. India is equipped with a constitutional law and order machinery. It is time to call off the Cow Vigilantes who have created a fear psychosis in parts of the country. We need to come down heavily on mobs of whatever colour or shade they may be. Groups and organizations indulging in violence or even threatening to take law into their hands should be dealt with severely. Individuals whether Ministers, Members of Parliament or even local leaders who indulge in disruption of communal harmony should be publicly denounced by their parties and action should be taken against them. Our Freedom fighters sacrificed themselves to hand over to future generations a secular country “where the mind is without fear and the head is held high”. When partition took place, two countries were created – one on religious lines, the other our own cherished India as a secular home for all. History will not forgive this present generation if we lose that legacy earned through the sacrifices and blood of our freedom fighters, protected by the lives of our soldiers and served selflessly by every Indian working to create an India “Where the world has not been broken up into fragments by narrow domestic walls”.

    God bless our India God bless each one of us.

    Jai Hind.

    Bishop Theodore Mascarenhas, SFX

    Secretary General,

    Catholic Bishops’ Conference of India

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    1. The Church should keep in mind what Jesus said after asking for a coin. He asked, “whose likeness is this?”

      “Caesar”, the people replied.

      Jesus said, “Render to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.”

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  2. STATEMENT BY THE EDITOR’S GUILD OF INDIA

    https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/kashmir-lockdown-draconian-says-editors-guild-of-india-full-statement-2083352?pfrom=home-topstories

    “The Editors Guild of India is deeply concerned over the continued shutdown in communication links with the Kashmir Valley and the consequent curtailment of the media’s freedom and ability to report fairly and accurately on current developments.

    While some visiting journalists may be able to file their reports once they are out of the Valley, the lockdown is almost total and draconian for the vibrant local media that are the first eyes and ears on the ground. The Government knows very well that it is impossible to process and publish news now without the internet. It owes it to the people of India, including all in the state of Jammu and Kashmir, to allow the press, a vital institution of democracy, to function freely.

    In a situation such as that prevailing in Jammu & Kashmir at present, the role of free media, unhindered by such restrictions, becomes critically important in helping dissemination of news and in its democratic duty of keeping a watch on institutions of government and security.

    The Guild underlines the imprudence in creating an unfair distinction in the treatment: for access, curfew passes, communication between local journalists and those coming in to report from outside. All journalists and all Indian citizens are entitled to equal freedoms.

    The Guild urges the government to take immediate steps to restore normalcy for the media’s communication links. Media transparency has and always should be India’s strength, not fear.
    COMMENT

    The Guild expresses its appreciation for and solidarity to all journalists reporting from the ground despite unprecedented challenges. The Guild requests all, especially the government, to ensure their safety and freedom of movement.”

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    1. It’s not possible on national security grounds.

      Jammu & Kashmir are no longer states but Union Territories ruled by New Delhi.

      The gov’t can deny or restrict access to security zone areas. There are laws which govern this.

      The court will not interfere.

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  3. Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris. They will as a people decide their own future. Not you and me. Not Modi. Not Pakistan.

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    1. Next you will say that Tamil Nadu belongs to the Tamils, Punjab to Punjabis and Bengal to Bengalis etc.

      In law, a line has to be drawn somewhere. India is that line.

      Kashmir is integral to the security of India, its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Without Kashmir, the entire northern flank is left exposed.

      The high points along the border between the Indian subcontinent on this side, and Afghanistan, Sinkiang, Tibet, Yunnan and Myanmar on the other side is the natural frontier.
      In law, a line has to be drawn somewhere. India is that line.

      Kashmir is integral to the security of India, its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Without Kashmir, the entire northern flank is left exposed.

      The high points along the border between the Indian subcontinent on this side, and Afghanistan, Sinkiang, Tibet, Yunnan and Myanmar on the other side is the natural frontier.

      The Arabian Sea, Indian Ocean and the Bay of Bengal are also natural frontiers for the Indian subcontinent.

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      1. The same excuse Britishers can say about India that it is their territory. Each ethnic group should decide its future. No one is interested in invented geographic boundaries. Then “Indian subcontinent” is part of Asian subcontinent, and Russia is the top power there. So all can be called as Russia by that logic. All forms of “boundaries” are man made. They are socially constructed.

        The so called “India” was constructed by the Britishers. An artificial construct. Nations are made together b agreement. Consent of the people. Not of one man or you or me or anyone else. The people on the ground decide their future through democratic referendum.

        Much of Kerala was independent nation /kingdom for centuries. It did well without “India”. Bhutan ad Nepal is not part of “India”. They are independent nations. They are doing ok. Sri Lanka is not part of “India”, it is doing well on its own too.

        Larger countries cannot look after populations properly. Smaller, the better.

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        1. You are going off at a tangent into kangkung territory.

          Are you some sort of kangkung loyar and/or loyar buruk in the kopi tiam?

          India is recognized by the UN and the international community and the UK.

          The UK is not claiming India belongs to them.

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      2. Since you keep harping about “law”, laws stand on agreements. The King of kashmir agreed to accede with conditions put on autonomy. Modi broke that autonomy agreement. He violated the law.

        The supreme court of India will strike this move of Modi as illegal. It has gone to the court.

        International law also gives rights to each ethnic group/indigenous group to govern themselves and decide their own political future. Human rights laws also support it.

        You cannot “twist law” for your own sadistic pleasure.

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        1. There are many forms of self determination.

          The Judiciary tends to lean towards the state when it’s survival is at stake.

          The full text of the Instrument of Accession (Jammu and Kashmir) executed by Maharaja Hari Singh on 26 October 1947 and accepted by Lord Mountbatten of Burma, Governor-General of India, on 27 October 1947, is as follows:

          “ Whereas the Indian Independence Act 1947, provides that as from the fifteenth day of August, 1947, there shall be set up an Independent Dominion known as India, and that the Government of India Act, 1935 shall, with such omission, additions, adaptations and modifications as the governor-general may by order specify, be applicable to the Dominion of India.

          And whereas the Government of India Act, 1935, as so adapted by the governor-general, provides that an Indian State may accede to the Dominion of India by an Instrument of Accession executed by the Ruler thereof.

          Now, therefore, I Shriman Inder Mahander Rajrajeswar Maharajadhiraj Shri Hari Singhji, Jammu and Kashmir Naresh Tatha Tibbetadi Deshadhipathi, Ruler of Jammu and Kashmir State, in the exercise of my sovereignty in and over my said State do hereby execute this my Instrument of Accession and

          I hereby declare that I accede to the Dominion of India with the intent that the governor-general of India, the Dominion Legislature, the Federal Court and any other Dominion authority established for the purposes of the Dominion shall, by virtue of this my Instrument of Accession but subject always to the terms thereof, and for the purposes only of the Dominion, exercise in relation to the State of Jammu and Kashmir (hereinafter referred to as “this State”) such functions as may be vested in them by or under the Government of India Act, 1935, as in force in the Dominion of India, on the 15th day of August, 1947, (which Act as so in force is hereafter referred to as “the Act”).

          I hereby assume the obligation of ensuring that due effect is given to the provisions of the Act within this state so far as they are applicable therein by virtue of this my Instrument of Accession.

          I accept the matters specified in the schedule hereto as the matters with respect to which the Dominion Legislatures may make laws for this state.

          I hereby declare that I accede to the Dominion of India on the assurance that if an agreement is made between the Governor General and the ruler of this state whereby any functions in relation to the administration in this state of any law of the Dominion Legislature shall be exercised by the ruler of this state, then any such agreement shall be deem to form part of this Instrument and shall be construed and have effect accordingly.

          The terms of this my Instrument of accession shall not be varied by any amendment of the Act or of the Indian Independence Act 1947 unless such amendment is accepted by me by an Instrument supplementary to this Instrument.

          Nothing in this Instrument shall empower the Dominion Legislature to make any law for this state authorizing the compulsory acquisition of land for any purpose, but I hereby undertake that should the Dominion for the purposes of a Dominion law which applies in this state deem it necessary to acquire any land, I will at their request acquire the land at their expense or if the land belongs to me transfer it to them on such terms as may be agreed, or, in default of agreement, determined by an arbitrator to be appointed by the Chief Justice Of India.

          Nothing in this Instrument shall be deemed to commit me in any way to acceptance of any future constitution of India or to fetter my discretion to enter into arrangements with the Government of India under any such future constitution.

          Nothing in this Instrument affects the continuance of my sovereignty in and over this state, or, save as provided by or under this Instrument, the exercise of any powers, authority and rights now enjoyed by me as Ruler of this state or the validity of any law at present in force in this state.

          I hereby declare that I execute this Instrument on behalf of this state and that any reference in this Instrument to me or to the ruler of the state is to be construed as including to my heirs and successors.

          Given under my hand this 26th day of OCTOBER nineteen hundred and forty seven.

          Hari Singh

          Maharajadhiraj of Jammu and Kashmir State.

          I do hereby accept this Instrument of Accession. Dated this twenty seventh day of October, nineteen hundred and forty seven.

          (Mountbatten of Burma, Governor General of India).

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      3. The supreme court of India will uphold Article 370 of the Indian constitution. It’s job is to uphold the Indian constitution. The survival of the country is not at threat in any manner. It is the government that needs to prove it to the court. Supreme court of India does not favor Modi or anyone, but goes by constitution. Constitution gives room for autonomy and self-determination within the purview of the constitution. Here is the news

        https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/abrogation-of-article-370-challenged-in-supreme-court/articleshow/70615864.cms

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        1. The Supreme Court will not interfere in matters of “high policy” and national security.

          The Supreme Court will also not interfere in the prerogative and discretionary powers of gov’t and management.

          The Constitution is more about conventions i.e. the working of the Constitution.

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    2. In law, informed consent is important for agreements. Lines cannot be drawn without agreement and consent.

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    3. In fact, having Kashmir as an independent buffer state protects India even more. It brings peace with Pakistan also. There will be no need to “worry” about northern borders. India has no other enemies to the north. China isn’t that interested in that side. Neither are they interested in conquering India. Himachal pradesh that is south of Jand K is very mountainous and difficult terrain to cross. Much of plain areas of India is already protected. Focus more on getting rid of Rapist and other criminals and corrupt politicians that eat from within.

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